Session Start: Mon Nov 11 20:00:36 2002

Session Ident: #philosophy

[20:00] *** Now talking in #philosophy

[20:00] <larchie> Hi Danny

[20:01] <larchie> The Chat is open

[20:01] <frady> Is the test tomorrow?

[20:01] <larchie> yes

[20:01] <frady> Should I even show up?

[20:02] <larchie> I think you would best take the exam at the time of the final.

[20:02] <larchie> All we are doing to do is to do the test.

[20:02] <larchie> Further discussion should probably be off-chat since ...

[20:03] <larchie> the discussion will be in the Chat log for the class.

[20:03] <larchie> i.e., email

[20:03] <frady> Ok, can I come see you tomorrow afternoon?

[20:04] <larchie> I have a meeting until 1:30. Best would be office hours.

[20:04] <frady> Thanks Dr. Archie, sorry for all the mess....

[20:05] <larchie> no problem--I hope the medical news is ok

[20:05] <frady> Is it ok for me to sit on the sidelines and take notes?

[20:06] <larchie> I'm not sure what you mean. There is no class tomorrow except for the test itself.

[20:06] <frady> I mean during this chat session?

[20:06] <larchie> Sure.

[20:07] <larchie> So far, as you can tell from the list, only you and I are in the chat.

[20:07] <larchie> Do you see something entitled "@Guardian" on your screen?

[20:07] <frady> Thanks, I will come see you after class tomorrow....

[20:07] <larchie> ok

[20:08] <frady> Nope

[20:08] <larchie> good

[20:08] <larchie> @Guardian is a program which gives the moderator superpowers

[20:08] <larchie> I'll see you tomorrow, then

[20:08] <frady> Ok

[20:10] <frady> They seem to be beating down the doors tonight

[20:11] <larchie> Usually people wait until later but they run the risk

[20:11] <larchie> that if there is no action, I'll close up shop.

[20:11] <frady> Do you do this from home or work?

[20:12] <larchie> From home

[20:12] <frady> That is good in a way

[20:12] <larchie> I don't know how to run mIRC with Linux yet so I'm using a Windows box at home.

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[20:13] <larchie> The Chat is Oen

[20:13] <larchie> i.e., "open"

[20:14] <ktw> do we need to know the chart for quality, quantity and distribuation

[20:15] <larchie> I'm not sure how to answer the question.

[20:15] <ktw> do we nned to know the chart as in quiz #7

[20:15] <larchie> How do you know how to obvert etc. unless you know what these terms mean?

[20:15] <ktw> or just the info to answer the square of opp questions

[20:16] <larchie> The test covers much more than the Square of Opposition

[20:16] <larchie> You have to understand the main terms

[20:16] <larchie> in order to know how to do the inferences and diagrams.

[20:16] <ktw> ok i understand - i just wanted to make sure we didn't have to fill in the chart it self

[20:17] <ktw> thanks and everyone have fun studying :O)

[20:19] <larchie> ...

[20:20] <larchie> ...

[20:22] <larchie> ...

[20:23] <ktw> oops sorry

[20:24] <larchie> any question about categorical propositions?

[20:25] <larchie> Danny--BTW there's a link in the Logic Home Page to a...

[20:25] <larchie> copy of the revised schedule for the remainder of the semester

[20:26] <frady> Ok, I will take a look at it

[20:28] <frady> Dr. Archie, I am going to go, I will see you tomorrow around 1000.

[20:29] <frady> frady out

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[20:31] <BM3> ok whats going on

[20:31] <BM3> am i in the wrong room or is this for logic?

[20:31] <larchie> The logic chat is open

[20:32] <larchie> any questions about categorical propositions?

[20:32] <BM3> i mean is this the logic chat room or is it philosophy chat like it says at the top of the page?

[20:32] <BM3> not really

[20:33] <BM3> i just wanted to know the test format and the subjects that will be covered

[20:33] <larchie> This is the pre-test chat for the logic test tomorrow

[20:34] <larchie> The format and subject is given at

[20:34] <larchie> http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/prop_test.html

[20:34] <larchie> the web pages for the example test

[20:34] <BM3> is there a http://the test is like this

[20:34] <BM3> ok thanks

[20:34] <larchie> Check out the quizzes also

[20:34] <larchie> for more practice

[20:34] <BM3> i will

[20:34] <BM3> ok

[20:35] <BM3> are there any quizzes covering subjects that we were not quizzed on, that will be covered on the tests?

[20:35] <BM3> or test, i should say

[20:36] <larchie> Well, there are quizzes online for other subjects than

[20:36] <larchie> those covered on this test. Obviously, this test ...

[20:36] <larchie> covers only part of the material for the course.

[20:36] <BM3> narurally

[20:36] <BM3> naturally

[20:37] <BM3> ok, another question

[20:37] <larchie> Check out the assignment sheet in the syllabus if ..

[20:37] <larchie> you are unsure of what was covered since the last test.

[20:37] <larchie> The best way to prepare is to work the sample online test.

[20:38] <BM3> if we can tell the truth value of a proposition without going through the sqaure of opposition and the categorical propositions...

[20:38] <BM3> will this be sufficient?

[20:38] <BM3> square

[20:38] <larchie> You have to be prove what the truth values are.

[20:38] <BM3> ok

[20:38] <larchie> The only way to do this is to cite the reasons which ...

[20:39] <larchie> are the logical relations involved.

[20:39] <BM3> yes, ok

[20:39] <BM3> just more often than not i am able to deduct truth values of statements without the process

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[20:40] <larchie> That's good--you have a kind of internal check as to the

[20:40] <larchie> correctness of your answers.

[20:40] <BM3> yes

[20:40] <BM3> without the reasons

[20:40] <larchie> Some persons can't really tell by guessing

[20:40] <BM3> but i will learn them for the test

[20:41] <larchie> Well, that's really what the test is all about--i.e., using

[20:41] <larchie> logic to prove truth and falsity.

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[20:44] <larchie> ...

[20:45] <larchie> The Logic Chat is Open

[20:45] <larchie> ...

[20:46] <BM3> sorry i was sending you a message personally

[20:46] <BM3> i assume it didn't gp through

[20:46] <BM3> go

[20:47] <larchie> Are you trying to use mIRC commands?

[20:47] <BM3> no i clicked your name and it said "speaking to larchie privately"

[20:47] <larchie> I didn't receive any off-chat communications--

[20:48] <BM3> i highlighted your name in the box on the right

[20:48] <BM3> ok

[20:48] <BM3> well maybe i should just email you

[20:48] <larchie> I think it's because I'm not a normal user.

[20:48] <BM3> since you keep a record of the chat log online]

[20:48] <BM3> oh ok

[20:48] <BM3> i was asking about attendance policies

[20:49] <larchie> The online chat will be posted about 9:10 or so tonight.

[20:49] <BM3> ok

[20:49] <BM3> i will just send you an email or ask in person

[20:49] <larchie> Attendance policies are in the syllabus-check the index at the back.

[20:49] <BM3> ok

[20:49] <BM3> see you tomorrow

[20:50] <larchie> Also online with a hyperlinked index--see you tomorrow...

[20:50] <larchie> good luck

[20:50] <BM3> ty

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[20:50] <larchie> The Chat is Open

[20:54] <larchie> The Chat is Open

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[20:57] <larchie> The Chat is Open

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[21:03] <larchie> The Chat is Closing

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[21:03] <larchie> The Chat is Closed

Session Close: Mon Nov 11 21:04:07 2002